SNB Toyotomi ~ Chapter 7.5 ~

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Chapter 7: Conference

A proposal for a conference from Nobunaga was delivered to Hideyoshi. The ones who appeared as emissaries were Oda’s chief vassals, Mitsuhide and others.

Hideyoshi, who was making preparations for the conference, spilled an unexpected motive……

Chapter 7.5

[YUZUKI]: (Because I’m worried about Hideyoshi-san and the others, I got dragged into eavesdropping but……)

[YUZUKI]: “Um…… Hanbee-kun, where are we going to eavesdrop from?”

[HANBEE]: “Right above where the meeting is going to be held.”

.[YUZUKI]: “Right above……?”

[HANBEE]: “Yep, yep. A hidden room was made in advance for times like these.”

[YUZUKI]: (Like an… attic or something?)

[HANBEE]: “It’s small but we can peek in from there.”

[TOSHIIE]: “It’s reaaaally small so be careful, okay? Keep your head down.”

[HANBEE]: “If it was a large space then it’d be suspicious, so there was no choice.”

[TOSHIIE]: “Yeah, you’re right. Ah, it’s also pitch dark so you won’t be able to see your feet.”

[HANBEE]: “Be careful not to make any noise too. Being able to hear noises from below means they can hear our noises too……”

Impressing the warnings Hanbee-kun and Toshiie-san gave me firmly into my head, I nodded.

[HANBEE]: “Here we are, we can climb up from here……”

And then, beckoned by Hanbee-kun, I stepped into the attic.

[YUZUKI]: (Wow, you really can’t see anything……)

[HANBEE]: “Careful until your eyes get used to it.”

While paying attention not to hit my head, I slowly moved forward while bending over. And then Hanbee-kun, who was in the lead, stopped.

[HANBEE]: “Now then, was it around here……?”

Hanbee-kun put his face close to the floor and raised his head after he confirmed something.

[HANBEE]: “Yep, I’m right…… Come and try peeking from here.”

[YUZUKI]: (Peeking……? Ah, there’s a hole in the floor……)

Invited by Hanbee-kun, I looked into the great hall from the hole.

[HIDEYOSHI]: “I read the letter from Nobunaga, so I know what you came to talk about but……”

[HANBEE]: “…… Looks like the conference has started already~.”

[HIDEYOSHI]: “Since you came all this way to the castle, won’t you tell me again what you came for?”

[MITSUHIDE]: “…… Nobunaga-sama’s request is this: “Starting with the separation, all the battles and the swords that have been crossed, everything will be overlooked. In exchange, you will return to the army”.”

[MITSUNARI]: “…… We haven’t done such a thing as separating. We declared a protest.”

[KANBEE]: “Indeed. Regardless of these false charges, traitors must be punished.”

[YUZUKI]: (Mitsunari-san and Kanbee-san are speaking extremely coldly…… it’s like they aren’t the two people that I know……)

Even though I was just looking at the two who asserted that in cold and strong tones, I winced. However, Oda’s emissaries weren’t fazed at all.

[MITSUHIDE]: “…… It appears that you gentlemen have misunderstood.”

[MITSUNARI]: “Misunderstood? How do you explain that.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “It is true I caused a rebellion, however Nobunaga-sama’s decisions are everything in Oda.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “As long as Nobunaga-sama overlooks it, you gentlemen have no right to say anything.”

[HIDEYOSHI]: “Ooh, strong words~.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “Above all, Nobunaga-sama has entrusted all of today’s negotiations to me.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “Presently, in this place I – and no one else – am the proxy for Nobunaga-sama.”

[YUZUKI]: (…… Kanbee-san said that Mitsuhide-san was a very serious person, and somehow I feel like I can understand……)

[YUZUKI]: (Like how Hideyoshi-san and the others have their own convictions, Nobunaga-san and Mitsuhide-san and the others have theirs too……)

[YUZUKI]: (…… And that’s why neither side is yielding to the other in this discussion……)

[HIDEYOSHI]: “…… I know what you want to say.”

[HIDEYOSHI]: “But don’t you think it’s a little impossible to bring us in now that we’ve already become independent and have expanded our forces?”

[HIDEYOSHI]: “You know, to us right now, Oda isn’t an enemy anymore.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “…… Is that really true, I wonder.”

Even after receiving Hideyoshi-san’s provocative words, Mitsuhide-san did not bat an eye.

[MITSUHIDE]: “We are already aware of the fact that you gentlemen have obtained the blood that awakens the power of the ancients and the sacred treasure.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “However, we have prepared countermeasures as well.”

[HIDEYOSHI]: “Power of the ancients? Obtained the sacred treasure? I don’t know aaanything about what you’re saying~.”

[KATSUIE]: “Hah! It’s useless to play innocent! You were out of luck when you snuck into our lands. Nagahide saw it for sure with his own eyes.”

[KATSUIE]: “That Toshiie sucked a girl’s blood and changed looks!”

[YUZUKI]: (He means… that time!)

[TOSHIIE]: “…… Shit. So that time he looked like he was withdrawing, he was still there beside us……”

[HANBEE]: “…… ‘Cause Nagahide-san is especially wary and well prepared, huh~.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “Nobunaga-sama has no intentions, as of now, to aggravate this situation.”

[MITSUHIDE]: “Please return obediently to being under Nobunaga-sama before our lord changes his mind.”

[HIDEYOSHI]: “…………”

In response to Mitsuhide-san’s words, Hideyoshi-san kept quiet. Because we were directly above him, I couldn’t see his expression……

[YUZUKI]: (Hideyoshi-san, what are you going to do?)

(T/N: GODS I just have to scream because even though we’ve retraced parts of this meeting from Oda’s side, the way the seiyuus voice this part is COMPLETELY different! I honestly recommend anyone interested to play this free game just for the full-voiced story. Hideyoshi has this cruel undertone in Oda’s route but here he’s a softie. Meanwhile, Mitsuhide who sounds really gentlemanly and sweet in Oda is emotionless here. It’s just SO SO good.)

8 thoughts on “SNB Toyotomi ~ Chapter 7.5 ~

    Akatsumeow said:
    November 11, 2018 at 09:24

    I would have played this game a long time ago… BUT. I CANNOT READ JAPANESE! And I have no idea how to download it without using a Japanese account. Because I managed to play trick or alice without one.

      Ilinox responded:
      November 11, 2018 at 18:21

      Getting this game on your phone will depend on whether you have an android or iphone /o\ if you have an iphone then I’m afraid you do need a separate jp iTunes account. If you have an android then you just need to get the app through things like APKPure or something (I’m not familiar with android because I have an iphone gomen).

    Reggie said:
    November 21, 2017 at 03:32

    Another face palm for Toshiie hahaha XD If Mitsuhide and Hideyoshi gives me heartache then Toshiie is giving me headache hahaha XD

      Ilinox responded:
      November 21, 2017 at 12:18

      Poor Toshiie LOL I mean he did get himself into the whole mess and situation with Nagahide but it ended up working out for Hideyoshi. And it’s not really his fault Nagahide was prepared enough to bring a ton of archers to shoot him, ahaha. Biiiiig “oopsies” moment for Toshiie though, that’s for sure |D.

      LOL heartache and headache.

    1_chan said:
    November 20, 2017 at 22:03

    Whoo~ that’s one hell of a block of words, but its great feeling such enthusiasm exploding from the comments section xD. Thanks for the chapter tho, and ahhh…I really should get going to see all the voiced segments ;; 7 ;; )).

      Ilinox responded:
      November 21, 2017 at 12:12

      Haha, no pressure or anything //bricked I love any comments regardless of their length <3! Yeah, I feel like 70% of the enjoyment of these types of games is the illustration, music, and voices so even though I'm doing my best to share this game with everyone I do feel like it's a shame if people are only reading and not hearing how talented all the seiyuu are. But at least I can share some of my favorite voice clips with you guys |D.

    Yoru said:
    November 18, 2017 at 10:01


    Back here again, to trouble you once more, of course xD I’ve returned from my trip and man, did I enjoy Japan’s senbura fandomness <3 keychains, pins, everything…
    I've read also all these chaps so far and YESH finally, we got chap 7 and the past have been told!! Thank you <3

    Though jskfhjgej Mitsuhide, don't you DARE die, I'm really nervous of Hideyoshi's one condition,nnnngh, I, I don't know what to, eh, nnn x_x
    I so wish I knew what would Nobunaga think of this. Would he be 100% okay to sacrifice Mitsuhide to get Toyotomis back? Or it isn't worth it?
    I just, mmm…I really like Nobunaga, really, I like how cruel he seems but actually cares so much for his people. BUT if this turns out that he's just using Mitsuhide's guilt and readyness for sacrifice I'm gonna be so pissed off and disappointed to Nobunaga since I'm a big fan of Mitsuhide's and NO ONE is gonna frikkin' touch him xD especially when I think he never did anything that wrong. I mean, what he did was highly risky and absurd, buuut…Unlike Nagahide, for me, the true loyalty for one isn't blindly obeying EVERYTHING. I much more
    appreciate Mitsuhide who was just worried that maybe this Nobunaga was losing himself since no one is perfect, not even he.
    So Nobunaga, you're on thin ice here, you better not have spared Mitsuhide's life with ONLY reason (it's okay if it's a strategic reason AND that he cares about his vassal) to use him for your extra life or something, or I'm gonna lose soooo much respect for you, you damn sexy vampire bastard you, you just…Don't make me mad. 'Cause I love you. But I won't, if you're a frikkin' bastard…xD

    Also…That new claaan!!! What is going oooon, ah, the Mori clan, yakuma clan perhaps?? I'm already so biased to their leader btw xD <3 can't wait…

    aaand now, for the previous message's answers:

    Thank youuu for giving me all those impressions! Was fun to read xD

    And yessh, think about how our impressions, too, ofcharacters can vary so much =D Hideyoshi sure can handle the voice…and I love that playfulness~
    Haha, and true! Kenshin is definitely one of my favs already, and going up xD he's just so, nnngh…When I found out in anime the reason behind why he plays his biwa, my heart <3
    BTW!! If I haven't asked yet, what do you think of the anime??

    Oh yeah totally get what you mean, hide the pain behind smile, it's just something…gah, makes a girl feel like "I wanna save youuuu, let me share your feeling and don't carry all
    that weigh by yourself" -like~

    Mm-m, mm-m, そうですか…~ that is a very good point about Hideyoshi, 'cause he DOES live like that, he even admitted how he tells lies etc xD so that's actually (in a weird way, lol) a plus for me in that thing I told you before. 'Cause usually I like that the love confessions happen only after a long while, buuuut, if one is done by manipulating, then that's so much better! (…lol, I mean, I MEAN in a fiction, not in real life! The things I find romantic in fiction are so twisted xD) but yesh, I like that Hideyoshi truly might've not meant anything first, but
    then has actually started to fall in love, THAT'S sweet~

    YESH! Enemies to lovers, DA BEST <3 haha, ou yeah, and true poor Shingen xD just wants to prove himself, "be equal". (But you are, Shingen!!)
    And omg, do you want to hear the funniest and loveliest thing ever?? About these two, well, of their kin.
    I had a little history lesson for me, by me, 'cause Uesugi Kenshin's thing with Shingen Takeda has always interested me long before Senbura started. Soooo, I started to dig through their family trees and just guess what…
    Kenshin's adoptive son Kagekatsu married Shingen's daughter!!! xD unfortunately, I didn't find her name anywhere, but found out that "Takeda Katsuyori's sister married Uesugi Kagekatsu", and Takeda Katsuyori is Shingen's second son.
    But seriously, I can't believe this, the fucking cutest thing ever!! Enemies's children marrying, is this even real life aaagh, I can just imagine the faces of Kenshin and Shingen xD <3

    Yeah, might be, that Date's aren't o.o but heh the anime at least helps me to know them better. Right now, I see Masamune the most adorable, I'm very curious how this goes~
    Aah, and thanks for the warning, gotta look out for that yeah =D

      Ilinox responded:
      November 19, 2017 at 21:18

      Hello hellooooo!! I hope you had a lovely trip :D and packed your suitcases full of everything! Haha, you jumped right into the part where everything is starting to heat up again.

      That’s the question right? We know that Mitsuhide is willing to die to fulfill Nobunaga’s order which is to negotiate with Toyotomi and get them to return but… Mitsuhide committing suicide SEEMS A BIT OF A STRETCH. You wouldn’t want to lose your right hand man like that, right Nobunaga? RIGHT!? Dun dun dun, the suspense. Although if you’ve read Toyotomi 8.1 you’ll see that they’ve gone past this point. How’s the Oda side going to handle it though…

      Nobunaga is such an interesting character (and person from what it sounds like in history) because of all these sides he has |D. I think ultimately, like how many characters in the game have been saying, he’s someone who will do anything to get his goal including sacrificing his people but he also knows the value of loyalty and treating his subjects fairly. I share your thoughts on loyalty and I think Nobunaga does too, a little, in that he expects his subjects to carry out his orders without doubt and loyalty but if they have the gall to confront him I think he’d grudgingly respect that like what Mitsuhide did. Especially because Mitsuhide confronted him out of loyalty to the people / Nobunaga’s ideals and was willing to die if he was wrong.

      Apparently the Mori clan are “oni”s LOL I think they’re probably another sub-race from the Gekka tribe since no one in the game said it was JUST werewolves and vampires. They said there were other races like werewolves and vampires that drink blood so onis can easily fall in there too |D;; it’d be interesting if they did have some kind of relation to the yakuma… though my bet is still on the yakuma being the corrupted military government of Himemiko in the past!!

      I think the anime is interesting |D;; I don’t think it’s a particularly good measure of the game but I never had high expectations for game adaptations jhfghjkfjgh I do enjoy the fanservice moments though and seeing more Hideyoshi expressions! Ehehe, also interesting to see how they do weave in game elements as well as introducing new things (game!Kenshin does play an instrument as well but he never gives that reason for sending souls off unless I missed that convo somewhere). I’m curious where they’re going to take it too.

      LOL don’t worry I get exactly what you mean about fictional tastes because whenever I see my fictional biases they’re always borderline ruthless or crazy, ahaha. Gotta protect my villain boys |D.

      That’s hilarious between Kenshin and Shingen! Reluctantly in-laws LOL. A friend gave me this fun history lesson too about their honorful rivalry where one of Shingen’s allies refused to give his country salt and like betrayed him or something? And Kenshin was pissed about that and sent Shingen a heck ton of salt and Shingen sent him spears out of thanks. I think this was before they were full out at war though. Kenshin seriously mourned Shingen’s death too when he died IIRC. I also love their titles with Kenshin known as the Dragon of Echigo and Shingen the Tiger of Kai. Dragons and tigers being mortal enemies LOL.

      Speaking about enemies to lovers though *coughs* I think these upcoming chapters might unleash a horde of Nobunaga/Hideyoshi fans :’)).

      Speaking of Date (and kinda Uesugi) I have a poll going on right now to help decide the next SNB thing to translate and it looks like Date is winning but don’t forget to toss a vote in whichever you’re interested in!

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